Podcast Transcription: Success Story: After Working Out 7 Days a Week with No Results, Dave Finally Lost 25 lbs. in 4 Months by Doing Less

Ted Ryce: Dave, thanks so much for coming on the show and sharing your story, and how you achieve the great results in my coaching program. Of course, it's already sounding like an infomercial, but what I love to do with these situations is have you tell the, transparent truth about not just what you achieved, but how you achieved it, what was in your way, why you ended up signing up in the first place. 

And of course, the amazing results that you got, but I don't want people to think that it came super duper easily, unless you did feel it was easy. So I can't wait to get into your story because I haven't even heard all of it. So thank you so much for being here and sharing this.  

Dave: Yeah, of course. My pleasure. 

Ted Ryce: And so let's start off by, can you just briefly introduce yourself, talk about who you are, what you do and, and the results that you achieved in the program.  

Dave: Yeah. All right. I'm DavI am from over on the East coast of the US. And I am a sales manager. and also, have, 3 kids. They're all a little bit older, been married for 25 years. 

And, just turned 45 during the program. but, yeah, so I guess to give a little bit of background was, I was, working out consistently since about 20 end of 2019, right before the pandemic and felt like I was making pretty good strides. I went into a doctor's visit late in 2019. 

And then went into there and it had really poor results. And my doctor, what I love about my doctor was very honest with me. It was basically like, Hey, you don't work out. You don't watch what you eat. You don't walk, you don't eat, drink properly, anything. Why would you expect different results? And what I'm sharing with you, so that was like, my wake up call, my blood pressure was high. 

He was going to put me on some medicine and he goes, hey, I'll give you 6 months. And I said, no, give me 1 month. And after that. It's been a fitness journey for me, but, hit a couple snags along the road where I got low in weight, but ultimately just wasn't seeing the results. I really wanted to and something that was sustainable. 

Started seeing some of your posts and, like your approach on how things were going. And that's when I reached out to you.  

Ted Ryce: And just, I want to, cut right to the chase. So people know how much have you lost in the program and what timeframe, just so people have context.  

Dave: Yeah. So I think, I'm just over four months at this point and, I'm down 25 pounds, almost exactly, holding there started out at two 15 down to one 90, but everything fits differently. It just, in that, 25 pounds.  

Ted Ryce: Yeah, amazing results. We, look for around 20 pounds in four months, of course, depending on how much someone has to lose. So, you've achieved that higher level. In fact, I saw, on phase one, which we do for two weeks, you lost 9. 

6 pounds. Did you see that?  

Dave: Yeah, it's crazy when you look back at the pictures, because I still feel like the same person, but at the end of the day, it, you realize walking is not as much of a difficult or just like, when you try on clothes that you thought were your comfortable clothes and now they're like, enormous on you. 

And in fact, I have a whole bag of clothes that I'm sending to the donation bin later today. just went through some of those and it's just amazing to see, You don't feel the transformation, not necessarily see it, but it's more of a feel that, that really, it has impacted me.  

Ted Ryce: I know exactly what you mean. 

I think a lot of people think the big change is going to be what they see in the mirror, but it's really how you feel. Thanks. And I want to get into that a bit more before we do, though. What were you doing before? Because you mentioned, Oh, you, got results. I remember our conversation, but I want to hear you share it. 

you were getting results, but then you was it. I don't remember this part. You put back on the weight. Can you talk about what you tried and what happened after you tried those strategies?  

Dave: Yeah, so I got down, I was doing a calorie deficit, essentially, and was, essentially cutting out a good portion of food, didn't have an idea of really what macros were anything like that. I was just cutting calories.  

Ted Ryce: What do you mean? Were you following you weren't following keto or anything like that? You were just what were you? What do you mean by cutting calories? get rid of sugar?  

Dave: I would eat instead of doing a full, maybe 3 egg omelet, I would just do egg whites and I would do a chicken sausage, things like that. 

But I wasn't incorporating enough, vegetables and even carbs to really help my body. So it actually ended up having a little bit of a result where, My father, unfortunately, passed away from colon cancer. So I've been something that I've been living with it in the back of my mind since 2010. 

And during that time frame, I was also having some stomach issues during that time frame. So the doctor put me on a low FODMAP diet, which. Really isn't really a diet. It's just restricting some of some things that can agitate your stomach. So I always was cognizant to cut out certain things, but it wasn't necessarily, I felt like I was eating pretty good. 

I would eat, I could eat as much beef, fish, things like that. As much as I wanted that stayed away from a lot of sugar. But again, didn't fully understand how much I was cutting back or where it was cutting back. And so at the end of it, I was cutting back on calories, but at the same time, I was definitely hurting how much muscle I had. 

So that was evident to me. So I got down to around where I am right now at 190. And unfortunately, my grandmother passed away during the covid time frame, and I'm 1 of the pallbearers and I feel like I should be in great shape. I feel hey, I'm down all this weight. I'm good. And I remember, lifting the casket and feeling like. 

This thing is heavy, this is heavier than it should be for someone who's in shape, essentially. In shape is a very different thing than just your weight. And then all of a sudden started looking at, I started, not lifting, but I started, Being more conscious of just like my actual muscle tone and things like that. 

And I felt it was just like, I was a skinny fat essentially, I wasn't necessarily, I lost them a lot of muscle probably during that time frame. And it was actually just 1 of those moments where I was like. I should be stronger than that right now. I was, 40 years old. I'm used to being able to do a lot of things, but then I noticed, my back would go out and things like that. 

And I'm like, I lost all this weight. I shouldn't be having these issues or I would. Be shoveling snow or things like that, and all of a sudden you have, a lot of discomfort. So that's when, so I started incorporating some strength training, things like that. I was working on some programs, but not something consistent and not something where I even knew what I was doing. 

I didn't have an idea of really what the schedule should be. I didn't understand what my protein intake should be, carbs, all that kind of stuff. I did a couple of phases, for a couple of weeks where I would do, a carnivore type diet or a low carb type diet and kind of, I would see, I would see myself jump 5, 6 pounds 1 way or another over that time frame. 

But ultimately just wasn't tracking, to a goal. I didn't know what the goal was. I didn't know. I didn't know where I was, what my goal should be. And I was trying to look at all these different things online and just was lost in it. And then at that point, it almost got to the point where it just got frustrating and just started putting some weight back on again. 

I think I was building some muscle, but not necessarily, maybe not the way I really should have been at the end of the day, because I was like, almost essentially bulking, but not in any idea of what I was doing as far as bulking and not all in the right direction. So that's when, my kids and I started going to the gym together and I was able to keep up with them for a bit, but then I was also going, but I'm still fat and I'm not seeing the weight come off as easy as 5, 10 years ago. So that's when I reached out to you.  

Ted Ryce: Yeah. Thanks for sharing all that detail because there's a lot of people who are in that situation going back and forth. And, I always say like people never want to sign up for coaching. 

People don't want coaching, but when they see the results that we get, they want that. It's can you get me that? I want that. Can you talk about for you, like what were your skepticism around coaching? Why did you end up. Trying it with me, can you share your experience there?  

Dave: Yeah, so again, it was probably that new year's time frame, want to start getting healthier, things like that, like everybody. 

Yeah. But the difference was, is. I was like, I'm going to try doing it on my own 1 last time to see if I could get there. And I think I reached out to you in January. I just got my blood work. Everything looked pretty good. My doctor was like, Hey, you're actually down 20 pounds from when you're heaviest. 

Things look really good. You're a little high on this. You're a little high there, but ultimately, keep up the good work. But I didn't feel great. I still didn't feel like, I should have, even though that was the general direction. And even all my blood work was showing positive things. 

I still didn't feel great. I looked in the mirror and I was like. Still like I shouldn't have this stuff,  

Ted Ryce: and you are working out a lot. That's the thing.  

Dave: And I was working out. I was working out 7 days a week,  

Ted Ryce: 7 days a week? 

Dave: 7 days a week. I would do 3 days of cardio, 4 days a lift in. 

And was saw no change in my weight whatsoever, and it was super frustrating because then that's when that was the part.  

Ted Ryce: I remember you said that you have been trying, I think, even for a year, you just maintain to 15, even though you were working out some days a week. Was it a year that you were stuck at  

Dave: that weight? 

Yeah, it was about a straight year at 215. And, I just kept going what is going on? and, I'm talking to some of my friends and they're like, it's not as easy. you're getting older and things like that. Your metabolism slows down. And I'm like, It's got to be something else though. 

there's just something I'm not doing right. I don't know either. Am I eating too much? Am I working out too much? What is it? Because and then you start reading these things and you're like, Oh, why, work out seven days? You can work out in less and get be more efficient with your time and up. 

I'm a big fan of like, the, kaizen, the theory and, like Lean Six Sigma projects and just being efficient with your time in my job. That's something that I, really focus on. numbers and things like that, are things that I kind of point back to, to say, Hey, how can I do things more efficiently, more effectively? 

And I have, I have a Peloton, I have a. I have a, like a treadmill type stair climber. The next thing you run for 16 minutes on a hit run, and you're going to burn so many calories and all that. And it worked for a bit, but then. Again, at the same time, I just felt like I needed something to change and I was prepared to do it. 

And that's when I reached back out to you. And I kept thinking I can do it. I can do it. But I think the difference between somebody who is willing to admit that they don't have all the answers and reaches out, those are the heroes. sometimes you want to be a hero to your family and say, hey, look, I can do all this stuff. 

Or. Whether it's your job and you try to do everything yourself, but at the end of the day, I think the real heroes of people who reach out and say, I can't do this without some help. And I've realized that in my career, I've learned it in my family, and now I'm learning it with my health. I'm not a doctor. 

I'm a salesman and I should trust people that, it can point people in the right direction and help me and guide me to, better results at the end of the day.  

Ted Ryce: Well said Dave, I agree with you, man. I had to overcome my own ego and in different areas of my life. As well, I'm probably still stuck in some areas, but for another show, right? 

To come back to it. Yeah. What was your skepticism about coaching and what really, I know you said, like you were just stuck, you were frustrated, but what made you pull the trigger and work with me specifically?  

Dave: I, was, I remember setting it up. I talked to my wife that day, the day before, whatever. 

And it was 1 of those moments I was like, hey, I might do this if I can afford it really is where I'm mentally like, they're like, I prepared myself for it. I think, we set it up, 3 days after I connected with you. So I had time to think about it. And I was like, all right, here's my budget. 

If I can, if we can work within this, then I'm all in. And then, you and I spoke and then I realized there's how well, we connected and just your overall, your approach and things like that. And it was even better than what I was expecting.  

Ted Ryce: It's always good to hear.  

Dave: I honestly, I expected, a used car salesman type thing. 

I didn't know what I was. I never went through it. And after. After we went through it, I was like, oh, yeah, let's go. I was mentally prepared to start moving forward again. I was already working out 7 days a week. There was nothing that you were going to tell me that I couldn't try or want to do to improve myself. 

and ultimately, I remember, I think 1 of your questions was like, hey, would you be willing to throw out everything in your pantry? and I was like, no, I have a lot of healthy things in there. it's, not that I was. Like, too far off base, I just needed the extra guidance to really get me across and start seeing those goals. 

So I think I might be different. And I think, you and I talked about something right off the bat, which was like, hey, what is your goal? is there an ideal weight that you want? And I didn't I don't have that, I don't, necessarily care what I weigh in general, but I ultimately wanted to feel good. 

I didn't want my back getting pulled because I, because I put my socks on, or because I moved wrong or things like that. Unfortunately, I've had, older family members and, they, they live tough lives, right? things were very different, 40, 50 years ago, right? But I got to see the ends of their lives and wanted to change that for my family. where I can be a little bit more independent, but also represent myself the best way that I can, I wanted to be the best. The best Dave that I could, and, and be that not just for the next couple of years, but, for the rest of my life. 

Ted Ryce: Wow. Love that, Dave. Powerful. thanks for sharing that because that's the first time I'm hearing it. The used car salesman thing. I say, I'm not, I've been doing this for way before the internet, not for the internet, but before all the social media platforms got popular. 

But yeah, I get it. There's a ton of skepticism and that's why I really appreciate you coming on and sharing this. So talk to me about yeah. So you went from being stuck at two 15, working out seven days a week, really frustrated meeting me thinking that okay, it sounds good. You're sounds like you're already half sold. 

You just needed to talk to me to see if we had good chemistry and if you trusted me, but then you join, you felt the vibe was good. You join. Boom, two weeks, you went from struggling for a year at 215 to 9. 6 pounds in two weeks, and then going on to now losing a total of 25 pounds. What was that journey? 

Like?  

Dave: Yeah, I remember. At the 1st, couple of days, again, candidly, I've never told you this, but jump on the scale. It's son of a gun. This guy was right. And I would say it to my wife. I'd be like, I can't believe it. It's another pound off another half pound. I was like, son of a gun. 

And and all it was following, And it wasn't major tweaks for me personally. So what that was the biggest change for me was I wasn't like, oh, my God, I have to cut out like, so many things. I, I eat an egg white omelet every day. I love it. I know people there's people who might hate it. 

But I put in things that I like in it, and I've made them in a way that, I look forward to that meal. And then ultimately, I've looked at it and was like, okay, but now I. I was able to take some of those, approaches and start going, okay, like, how do I make it from good to great? 

Essentially, I thought I had a good protein mix. actually. I, I found a way isolate that was better and it was lower in calories. and I didn't have to put milk in it. an almond milk. So all of a sudden I was saving. an extra 100 calories that I was just drinking every day, but a big thing for me is espresso. 

So I drink 3 cups a day. I love it. It's 1 of my, it's literally if you told me I couldn't do it, that probably would have been a deal breaker when I saw you could drink as much black coffee. The big change for me, though, was, I used to put sugar in my, coffee and what I found, though, was I like it better now without putting sugar in it. 

And again, I went from drinking maybe, a Starbucks or something like that to break things up. And then all of a sudden you look at and you're like, no, I like a candy bar, not necessarily coffee. Now I realize I like coffee. I like espresso, especially. So it's 1 of those things where I sit there and I look at it and I go I've discovered certain foods that I have that I stayed away from because I thought they would hurt my stomach or had incidents before when I was on this low FODMAP diet. And now I found that I can enjoy them. I love them. The transition for me wasn't as hard now again, putting in some of the work and things like that. 

I was, I was. always awful at doing pull ups candidly, I think I told you I can't do one pull up regular straight pull up couldn't do them. It's too fat not strong enough at the end of the day now I'm, 1st, I was doing on, with your hands out and everything. 

I think I crank out, the 1st couple of weeks I was doing, 2 and then I went to 3, then I went to 4, then I went to 5. And ultimately every day was just about how do you improve? can you do 1 more? Can you do, can you push yourself? And, I just kept finding you're stronger than you think you are. 

And your encouragement to, just stay on the path and, keep following the trends. it was encouraging for me, right? I was seeing the change in my body, but again, I felt the change in my body. And then it was funny. I was at, something and I hadn't seen some people in a while. 

And they didn't mention anything. They didn't say oh, boy, you look like you lost some weight or anything. They didn't say anything. But about 2 weeks later, we were somewhere and they were like, I didn't want to say it in front of everybody. But boy, you really like. You look good. 

I'm like, but with clothing, it looks 1 way and then during the summer, they were like, oh, my gosh, you like someone's been working out and it's it's that was like the light bulb moment. It was like, okay, cool. It feels good. It's Not, just that other people are seeing the hard work and, sometimes there's, there's times where I'm traveling for work. 

I work out at the hotel gym. If they only have a certain max weight, I get something in, but it's now non negotiable for me not to work out. And that's something I plan my whole week around again. I I've, come to the point where it was something I used to hate working out. I made fun of people that worked out most of my life. It's now something I've learned to embrace. 

Ted Ryce: Even when you were working out seven days a week?  

Dave: Yeah, I hated every moment of it. I hated it because I wasn't seeing the results. Oh, you weren't seeing the results. I'm like, why the hell am I wasting my time away from my family? 

Great. I maybe it maybe I'm moving towards some goal, but what is that goal? Because I'm not seeing it. I'm not feeling it. And then sometimes, you weigh yourself the next day. You're a pound heavier after you just worked out for 3035 minutes. You're sweating like crazy. And you're just like, what is going on? 

And the next day you're just back at your same weight. I got to a point where I was just almost getting beyond frustrated and just saying, who cares? I could just be, I could just, settle. I won't get hurt sitting on a couch, watching TV and enjoying what I want. There's a portion of it. 

And then I have this internal thing that just doesn't let me do that. and again, I think your, guidance and things like that. It's just, I made some minor shifts. That have really gave me some really good results and I don't feel like guilty if I do eat 1 thing or have a drink or something like that. 

I just don't have that guilt anymore, which I always have, do I eat that other thing or we all know it's not good for us. everybody can tell you it's not healthy to eat X, Y, or Z, but, now I go, I can have that. And then I'm just going to cut back. I'm going to build it into my schedule. 

I enjoy it now. I, almost look at it like a game, going into my fitness now, putting in myself. I start with, I know what my breakfast is because it's my egg white omelet that I look forward to. I know that's 268 calories and it's 49 grams of protein. I know it. But then, I back into it. 

And then I go to what am I having for dinner? And then I start filling in my schedule through there. So it's just again, it's become something I've, learned to enjoy the path versus just saying, oh, this is awful.  

Ted Ryce: Yeah. And what I'm taking away from that is you're the type of person you're highly driven, obviously. 

And you were working out seven days a week, and I want to get into how much we had you work out because it wasn't seven days a week. And I think it might be interesting for people to hear that. But what I hear you saying is you're liking the strategies because they're working for you. It's you can buy into the strategies as long as it works, but there's nothing more frustrating than working out seven days a week and not seeing a change or eating healthy and cutting out sugar and following everybody's advice online, but you're not seeing results. 

And that's what we find. yeah. If someone's in our coaching program, hardly ever happens, but some people struggle sometimes with the getting the tracking right as an example. But like, when you start to see yourself being in control and understanding, like, how it works and then seeing the results, it's ah, getting the ROI now versus before I call it going to work and not getting paid. 

You can't do it for long. So the number one reason why people give up, at least when they're sticking to something longterm, short term, it's more, can be other things, but long term, it's just hard to keep something up if you're not seeing results. So can you talk about, you went from seven days a week training for how long? 

An hour, 45.  

Dave: It would be like 30 to 35 to 45 minutes of Mitch of a warm up, full strength and then almost like a stretching and cool down type thing at the end for another 5, 10 minutes. And I kept doing all these things, and it was like, I'm like, hey, my arms are starting to look good or whatever, but I'm like, but my belly is still what it is, and so I would alternate, I would, switch days. I would do these things where, you know, and then I was like, this isn't working. Then I would try something else and I would do it for a month. That didn't work. Then I was trying something else. Then I was trying something else. 

And it was like, I just don't understand, and you hear all these different people. Oh, this works for me. And this works for me. And I'm talking to all these different people. And I'm like, Okay. It isn't working for me. It's killing me. I like, because I'm just not seeing the results. So I'm like, okay, ditch that 1 move on to the next thing. 

Move on to the next thing. And, 1 thing I was always consistent on was like, I never minded, going for walks. Me and my wife would go for a walk at night. I'd go on my lunch break. I just found it good to just get out, get fresh air, things like that. But again, so those were on and that was on top of everything. 

So again, I'm doing all these different things and then just going, there's no change. very different than your program.  

Ted Ryce: Yeah, thanks for sharing again, I really feel the frustration when you talk about it. I can imagine and I've been there before it's just it's been 10 years right when I have my moment of like realization. 

Then when we started working together, we had you start tracking and then do you remember the workouts how long they were when you first started? It's 30 minutes.  

Dave: I think they were like 20 minutes or something like that. And I'm going like, Oh, come on. I'm like, this is a joke. I would, come out after working out and be like, I don't even know what I'm like. 

This seems like a waste of time. I can do more weight. I can do more reps. I can do more whatever. I'm like, I don't think the guy gets me. I don't think he understands. I'm willing to like, do whatever I got to do. But then what was interesting was, so I have like adjustable weights, so I all of a sudden went from doing 25 pounds, all of a sudden 30, and 35, and 40, and 45, then my max out is 52 on each dumbbell. 

And I remember at one point doing like deadlifts and I was like, that was something I was afraid to do because of my back. I thought this, my back's going to go out, I'm going to be laying on the couch and, and I'm going to be miserable and I'm going to be paying for a program. I can't even do. 

And again, it started out 20 pounds, 30 pounds, whatever. Keep going. All of a sudden now I'm doing, 35. Reps or something like that 3 sets and I'm doing the max way to have and I feel great and I can't wait to do it and again, I'm like, I can beat next week. I can beat next week. I can beat it. 

and then just ultimately, so then it was like, it was good though, because without that foundation, I don't get the, any of the results that I have. Right now, and it's hard. You think you're at a certain level, but you're not, you still think you're 20 years old mentally, whatever it is. 

I don't know, but I wasn't, and again, those were some little things that I was able to build on and I remember at a certain point, you were like, hey, I'd actually prefer if you actually did calm down a little bit. You probably actually would be dropping more. If you, kept on, if you actually just stuck with it. 

And I was like, all right, again, I was like, okay, but I, and I did it. And again, it worked. I'm like, Oh, son of a gun. I'm like, it works every time. so I'm like, just stick to the program. They've said, stick to it.  

Ted Ryce: yeah, thanks for sharing. And it's hard to listen to someone. It's hard to trust someone. 

I always say just, prove me wrong then. It's okay. And sometimes, we, the strategies we implement will, it won't work and we'll have to change, but I have enough experience typically where I make the right choice for the person at the time, but thanks for sharing. 

I'm really. it's always nice to hear. And, it's just been a pleasure working with you. What, I'd also like to, I'd ask just two more questions. One is what has been the biggest change outside? you've talked about the way you look, you've talked about the way you feel. Was there anything that changed for you that you didn't it was unexpected.  

Dave: I would almost, a portion of it is just overall confidence though, too, that, that has come with that. cause you're not worried about maybe how you feel anymore or in how you look, there's something else. So now you can focus on other things. Other than those 2, which are 2 pivotal ones, right? 

If you hurt every single day, I remember a while ago, just going like, when, will I not have a day when something doesn't hurt or I'm not feeling good, but at the end of the day, those aren't things I have to focus on and I can use that time mentally for other things. 

And, I think I've become a better salesperson, I think, I was promoted, twice in the last, two and a half years, but this last time was like, something I've, always wanted to do, I love what I'm doing now, but I'm also trying to encourage other people, even using some of the same practices, just in different ways, because there's a lot of mental stuff that comes with, working out, it's not just all the physical stuff that everybody thinks of. 

I think I'm mentally stronger, but I'm also realizing again, going back to where I said that, years ago, I would be the guy who always just said, hey, muscle through it, push through all that kind of stuff. Now I'm encouraging my team. Don't do it all on your own. Reach out when you need help. 

You have a team to support you, you have people that are here, I'm understanding more than I ever have about just the dynamic of. you can't do everything yourself and there's nothing wrong with admitting that, there's reasons why people are have a specialty. 

There's a reason you don't go to the ear doctor when your foot hurts, you go to the specialty person, just understanding that and working through that, and rely on those people to do their job essentially. I think this program has helped me and I don't have, the. 

I guess like that, that issue of putting it all on myself of hey, I need to fix it. It's I've hired someone to help me. I need to still put in the work. I need to do certain parts of it. But when I'm struggling, I, I think you guys have been great as far as, if I reach out to you, you respond, you're quick, you support me. 

The weekly calls are great because you get something out of that with the team. I'm just learning, and it's all virtual. So that's the other thing. you didn't know. Hey, if I hired someone locally, would it be great? Or when I get the same results. But I think actually, it's been good because it is like a diverse group. 

And everybody's everywhere and you're, dealing with people that are all over the country, all over the world. I think it's it's, a different lens that I didn't have before starting the program  

Ted Ryce: beautifully stated Dave. Thanks so much. And last, question for you is, what would you say to someone on the fence about joining? 

There's some people who are like, not coaching, not for me. But there's some people who are like, I don't know what this is right for me or not. What would you say to someone who's on the fence about joining my program?  

Dave: I would just ask them what's holding them back from, being their best. and why, it's not going to be like, if you were on, if you were already starting to think about it, it probably means you probably should move forward. 

Which is that you should try it because at the end of the day, if you don't try it, you can never say, yeah, I wish I would. I wish I would like, I don't want to be the guy who's 65 years old and said, I wish I would have had abs at 1 point in my life, or I was healthier. You can't go back. You just can't go back. 

unfortunately, I've been around a lot of people who have, sadly are not with us anymore. And I don't what I'm happy to say is I don't have regrets to say. I wish I wish I would spend more time with him. I wish I would have talked to them more. I wish I'm not that kind of person. 

I feel like, you have a moment in time to do things and why not be your best and why not, invest in yourself. You're investing for your family. If you really care about your family, you shouldn't be investing in yourself because I think, they're the people who are going to have to help if you can't, if you're hurt or you're dealing with an illness, they're the people who you're going to be, hurting more than you think and I going through that. 

That was a tough part for me. but again, I don't think there's a worse feeling than seeing somebody, go through health issues and you have to be the person to help them. I, and I don't think they want that. They don't want that for you either. But unfortunately, you're in that situation. 

And again, I don't want that for my family. I want to be the healthiest person I can. I want to be the healthy dad. I want to be the healthy grandfather. There's a lot of things. There's a lot of reasons to, and a lot of people that kind of count on you more than you think. So I don't know if that's the exact answer, but I would tell you, if you're not doing it for Yourself do it for everybody else because really if you don't take care of yourself Somebody's gonna have to take care of you and I don't want to put that burden on anybody else  

Ted Ryce: Powerful way to wrap this up. 

Dave. Dave, man. You just crushed it I can't I would love to redo this when you're at the next level too And just thanks so much. You were just it was very powerful to hear your story, especially the why So just really appreciate you man, and thanks for doing this today You inspired a lot of people. 

Dave: Yeah. again, thank you for, for creating a, an environment where I feel safe talking about it, but also, where you can be vulnerable to, what your opportunities are, because, on those calls, I know, 1 thing that I would tell you too, is, you may not have much confidence family left, but I think you've created a family in this environment. 

So I just want to say thank you too, because, it truly does feel like a, team when you're on, when we're on our calls.  

Ted Ryce: That means a lot, man. Thank you so much. Really appreciate that. That's why I do what I do.  

Dave: Yep. Good.